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Bojo The Mighty
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:07:00 -
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But balance is when you adjust certain things. The term nerf is just when one side of the scale gets things removed/lessened. A buff is when things are added to the other side.
Balance overall no matter if it's nerf or buff, if propelled in the right direction, improves said object
So if no one cried nerf, we'd be on a perpetual buff scale and we'd have a ceilingless damage, HP, speed, etc.
Nerfing is sometimes easier than buffing everything around it.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
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Posted - 2014.06.18 00:09:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:I have yet to see anything that really impresses me or is even remotely based upon logic. That is why I'm annoyed with what I see you people saying.
****, I think I'd better make a Features and Ideas thread about this...
I gave a neutral statement that reflects the truth not written to impress I was just making sure you understood how balance works
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Bojo The Mighty
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Posted - 2014.06.18 01:43:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Oh and by the way? I don't care if they tone down the HMG a little bit. Because I'm still going to kill you with it, I'm not a skill-less crutch using heavy, I'm the kind of heavy that slaughters all the other heavies single handedly which you would call "heavy spam."
They nerfed most of the light weapons, so it wouldn't bother me that much if they lowered the HMG damage a little bit.
But you need to understand that the Shotgun was also not nerfed (much) in 1.8, and that it needs to be proportionally changed along with the HMG if said change even happens at all.
The solution to your problem isn't "nerf the hell out of the HMG dat **** is OP bro." It's oh, well why don't we increase the dispersion a little so it's even less effective at medium range?
We really need that thing to instantly melt scouts. Because if we don't, the scout is going to instantly MELT US. Yes, all true. I like your thoughts re: the shotgun vs. hmg. .
OK Flaw
Shotgun is not scout only weapon : Realistically they merely use it better
HMG is heavy only weapon
Heavies can use shotgun too if they think so high and mighty of it
Shotgun range is like 1/6 of the HMG?
Both have spread, shotgun cone has a wider degree
Shotgun damage profile -10% Armor +10% shields
HMG damage profile -5% shields +10% Armor
Compare those profiles to HP ceilings of Shield versus Armor
Semi Auto versus Automatic versus hit detection versus RoF
Shotgun is absolutely not to be compared to the HMG and I don't even use the shotgun. Those are just disparities on paper I'm sure my counterparts can give experience detail on each of those and take it further. But just please do not even bring the shotgun up it has nothing to do with the way the HMG works. If a scout could hold an HMG over a shotgun do you think they'd even touch the shotgun?
No one wants to "nerf da hell outta dat HMG" but acknowledge the power a heavy wields needs to be just and powerful not unjust and powerful. The degree of power is the concern; we want Uranium Bomb not Hydrogen Bomb
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